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A commonly known problem is the scale of plastic rubbish in the global seas. One such region alone, known as the "Great Pacific Garbage Patch", is estimated to be from 700,000 square kilometres (270,000 sq mi) to more than 15,000,000 square kilometres (5,800,000 sq mi) large.

I thought it was a great opportunity to resurface an interesting young guy's attempt at solving this problem. It's a wonderful example of Einstein's often cited: "We can't solve our problems with the same level of thinking that created them".
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A "new" way of collecting garbage, and make it "profitable"... Nice one - but for me this is "on the same level".
The real question is: why can't we stop MAKING the garbage first? The whole story is not about "how to save", but "stop killing"! Doctors can work efficiently only when the soldiers stopped shooting, don't you think?

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Come on, everyone is sleeping here?! Imagine that we have a perfect ocean cleaning mechanism (that we will not have). That means we have a tube: garbage in - garbage out. We also know that in our economy, profit is the ultimate reason: only those things are done that creates profit.

The REAL question is: WHY can MAKING GARBAGE create PROFIT? How can we fix our whole economy not to make pollution that later we have to take out?

I know that these nice cleaning ideas are popular and good for the conscience of some rich guys who have conscience at all. But that does not replace understanding and wisdom, or asking real questions. And then please, please don't say that you are on another level. No, you are not. This is still part of the problem. Sorry.

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Nikolai Kopelev "We can't solve our problems with the same level of thinking that created them", is one of the most famous quotes by Albert Einstein. We all are aware about the ocean pollution, which is not good to say the least. However, please accept my apologies, I do not see the link between the two. IMHO, Einstein has nothing to do with the pollution that should be taken case of.


Let me give you an example. You get advice from a swimming champion while you try to save someone who fell into the water. You say you don't listen to the swimmer because you think he never saved anyone from the water.

Einstein's advice is the most fundamental advice on problem solving:

If you have caused a problem,
you have absolutely no chance to solve it
until you change your mindset. 

Unfortunately, this article and the lecture show absolutely zero understanding of Einstein's words, so it is no surprise that you ask this question...



Nikolai Kopelev Thank you, Lorand Kedves, for the clarification, but, apologies, I still do not see a link between pollution, which is a disaster of XX! century, and Einstein's philosophical comment that, IMHO,is a a lot broader. Also, I would be grateful for an explanation of your pout "this article and the lecture show absolutely zero understanding of Einstein's words" - what exactly were you trying to say?

Do you know the basic rules of formal logic?
They were formalized in Greece, long before Christ, and either you know them or not, they are there behind any reasonable communication. On the other way: if a communication (or: simple thinking within your brain) does not follow these rules, that is useless: cannot lead to correct, verifiable results. Can you solve ANY problem, including the pollution without rational thinking?

Yes, the rules of formal logic are "philosophical" and "broad"... for those who can't see how practical they are, and how hard it is to follow them in each and every statement you make, even if you don't say it.
So I say it again. 1: Pollution is a problem. 2: Einstein has an advice on problem solving. 3: Einstein is known to be great in solving problems. 4: Perhaps you should listen to him even if he did not know your current problem.

And to the last question: Sorry, I don't repeat all my previous comments when I add a new one :-) For you now: the real question is "how can making garbage be profitable?" I accept that our lives today depend on cleaning - but if we keep polluting at the same time, we have no hope.